. >> how might president clinton then retaliate -- putin then retaliate? >> that is the wild card because russia can italian in serious ways. we know about the dependence of europeans on russian gas and energy. precious metals and cyber warfare that they could do. expected to match the u.s. moves and an equal level, and they could keep it coming up a for a couple of more years. thank you for joining us on the latest between the russia and the ukraine and the u.s. tom bill sachs book to my colleague about the long-overdue need for immigration reform. >> the reality is we are not doing as much as we could in -- because we simply do not have the hands to do so. it will help to reduce the deficit, it will ensure social security, it is long overdue. >> our agriculture correspondent joins me now from washington. good secretary vilsack seem at all optimistic about the chances for legislation? --he was deathly definitely upbeat about the chances this year. necessity, a a coalition coalescing around this bill, and some of the forces that have been pushing against i